Fri March 07 2003, 03:24 AM
ManowarA true work in progress
I've really been interested in "recording" Rune gameplay and having it converted to a common extension like .avi or .mpeg.
I've only seen this done once, and that was by Panacea from [
www.wfuclan.net ] So I asked her and this is was her response:
First off, you need an ATI "All-in-Wonder" video card with a video composite input and a video composite output. Not sure if TV-Capture will work or not because your card has to have "Dual-Monitor" support (i.e. you have one monitor on your desktop and another one in the living room where people can watch, etc...)
Secondly, you have to have a VCR and a blank tape.
Finally, you need some decent RCA cables.
For our purposes here, we are going to "trick" the VCR and the video card into thinking that the VCR is the second monitor. k? Everybody got that?
Step 1: connect your video composite out on your Video Card to the "Video In" on the back of your VCR. If you have audio plugs, don't worry about them because the VCR will not be able to understand the information coming from your audio card.
Step2: connect your video composite in on your Video Card to the "Video Out" on the back of your VCR. If you have audio plugs, don't worry about them because the VCR will not be able to understand the information coming from your audio card.
Step 3: Make sure your VCR is on the correct channel for Recording. For mine, it is L-1 (an aux channel). You can test if you are on the right channel by initiating your video software's "Video In" program and by turning on "Dual Monitor" support from your "Video Properties" panel. For yours it may have a different name but still does the same thing. It allows you to broadcast video on your computer monitor. Once you have activated "Video In" make sure the "Video In" program is running in a window. (BTW, if you have cable TV, you can also use this same method to set up your VCR, Monitor and Video Card to watch TV on your Monitor.) Now, change the channel on your VCR until you see your desktop do an INFINITE LOOP in the "Video In" window. It is easily recognizable. Once you see that, you will know that you are on the right channel for recording. Remember, "Dual Monitor" support MUST be enabled for you to see this INFINITE LOOP because, in essence, what you are seeing on the screen IS the information from the VCR that we have now TRICKED the Video card into thinking that it IS the second monitor. So, the "Video In" is your second monitor being displayed in a window on your REAL monitor. The VCR is just repeatedly displaying information it is getting from the video card and then sending it right back to the video card and that is why "Video In" will go into an infinite loop. Everybody with me so far?
Step 4: Turn off "Video In." For this recording to work, "Video In" cannot be active.
Step 5: Make sure that your Dual-Monitor support is active and that you are on the right channel for recording.
Step 6: Start up Rune.
Step 7: Press Record on your VCR. Believe me, if your VCR is on the right channel and Dual Monitors are active, it is getting the signal from the video card and recording everything it sees on your desktop.
Step 8: Once you are finished playing, stop recording.
Step 9: Turn off Dual-Monitor Support.
Step 10: Rewind the tape
Step 11: Activate "Video In" and playback the video in your VCR. Make sure your VCR is on the right channel for playback. For mine it is channel 3. Viola! You just made a video tape of your self and others playing Rune (or, incedentally, any other game you desire to record.)
Now, we are only half way done. Once we do the recording to the VCR, we now need to "CAPTURE" the video on the VCR to your Computer. This can be done with any type of video capture software. ATI's All-in-Wonder comes with the necessary software for capturing video and it is also built into Windows Movie Maker 2.
Lastly, before you decide to capture, you need to decide what quality and codec you want to capture with. For broacasting video on the internet, streaming video codecs like realvideo (.ram) or windows media video (.wmv) are good. You also need to take into account how large in MB you want your video to be.
Well, that's about it. If you have any other questions, don't be afraid to ask.
Pannyso good luck to me; or anyone else that even tries to attempt this
Fri March 07 2003, 09:11 AM
SHADYslanted letters hurt zee eye.
Fri March 07 2003, 03:30 PM
MisanthropeBeen doing that for a while man, not so much Rune, but other video games. It's easy to merely record the footage, the bitch is going through all of your encoded clips, mixing them to a song or some sort of story you want, and then trying to get it to look right. Getting the proper timing takes hours... but it's fun.
By the way, you don't need a pos all-in-wonder card, you can just buy a cheap mpeg or avi encoder, the one's that "let you watch tv on your computer!" Then rip the segments to divx or mpeg, dependent on preference, assuming you already have a video card that has a TV out. Also, it's not "tricking" the card into believing your TV is a monitor, that's ridiculous, the cards purposefully support the RCA signal specifically to be compatible with televisions/vcrs. Let me know if you have any issues… I’ve done this with 4 different video cards, and a plethora of “TV cards.”
Mon March 10 2003, 02:21 AM
Unter den UebrigenOriginally posted by Misanthrope:
Also, it's not "tricking" the card into believing your TV is a monitor, that's ridiculous, the cards purposefully support the RCA signal specifically to be compatible with televisions/vcrs.
Finally, the voice of reason. Indeed, Mis' is the more œconomic, and submits furthermore unto Ockam's razor.
Mon March 10 2003, 06:20 PM
Misanthropequote:
Indeed, Mis' is the more œconomic, and submits furthermore unto Ockam's razor.
Simplicity and affordability are definitely the goals here, no reason to waste time or money buying frivolous electronics to achieve the same goal. I think William would have wanted it that way.