Mon February 16 2004, 08:46 PM
RhoeddGot "Insulted" Lately?
Well, he didn't say "twice as many times," he said "twice as fast." Now, while I know that Radix wasn't cheating and that this other guy is clearly a dumbass, I must say that I think that you are misunderstanding the dumbass's accusation. When I accuse someone of swinging twice as fast as I do with the same weapon (which I have, each time indicating the inaptly named "Dwarf Work Sword," once or twice at the Fags of Valhalla server), I am referring to the swing speed, not number of swings in a combo. I'm fairly certain I've seen a script on occasion that makes a weapon's swing finish faster than the other players' swings with the same weapon. I've also seen a script that makes the "Dwarf Work Sword" skip the third swing in it's combination every time. Yellowhair can attest to that one, although she has since then shown me that it is theoretically possible to do without cheating.
Mon February 16 2004, 09:07 PM
YellowHairHeh; while yes, I believe that some people do use a bind to better acceive the desired swing combination, I have also figured for myself the way to do just part of a DWS combo, in rapid succession... absolutely boring, though, and so I've never bothered to master that trick. But I think most people, having played nothing but Rune for the last four years, have actually learned how to do that without illegal assistance.
I've seen scripts that can make a hammer swing like a gobby, and taunts that can make you flip over backwards. All of them are rather obvious, and most of them, not very helpful. And I have yet to see a worthwhile script for the low caliber weapons!
Mon February 16 2004, 09:17 PM
Dantelol, poor ol' Lep does good work, but it's been heavily abused by scripting wannabees and people who, sadly enough, think such things makes them better...
Tue February 17 2004, 01:33 AM
Zisuquote:
Originally posted by Rhoedd:
Well, he didn't say "twice as many times," he said "twice as fast." Now, while I know that Radix wasn't cheating and that this other guy is clearly a dumbass, I must say that I think that you are misunderstanding the dumbass's accusation. When I accuse someone of swinging twice as fast as I do with the same weapon (which I have, each time indicating the inaptly named "Dwarf Work Sword," once or twice at the Fags of Valhalla server), I am referring to the swing speed, not number of swings in a combo. I'm fairly certain I've seen a script on occasion that makes a weapon's swing finish faster than the other players' swings with the same weapon. I've also seen a script that makes the "Dwarf Work Sword" skip the third swing in it's combination every time. Yellowhair can attest to that one, although she has since then shown me that it is theoretically possible to do without cheating.
OMG Rhoedd... take the time to learn how the weapons act. You talk about DWS "skip the third swing in it's combination every time", but it's not hard to do. Actually, most
good players do it every now and then and some players pactically don't do anything else. You can play with dws and battle axe in a way the swing doesnt seem to end before the next already starts - like a fluid moving of axe in a lack of better description. You just have to know the moves.
I give you few pointers. For example DWS and Short Sword lets you do hitting periods that require no pause, you dont have to follow the combos all the way through. Both of the weapons mentioned above: move forward all the time and double click so that you get only 2 hits, then (still moving forward) double click again to get another 2 hits. After you learn this, you can try to make it so that forward is only pressed when you do the double click, while the move is going on you can move into any direction. You can also make dodge when the hitting animation is performing. Just make sure you press forward (and only forward direction) while doing the double click. Although sigurd axe has about the same animation dws has, this can't be done with it since the hits are slowly completed. Actually it can be done but the use of it isn't that practical because it is very slow. About DWS: with very good ping I can sometimes perform a very fast hit after a spin-dodge, so fast that it is almost the same hit. I haven't seen many do it. I'm just saying that your "twice as fast" hit. isn't necessarily a cheat but hits do come out differently after some combos.
Hammers and battle axe: if you do the hit-forward-jump (not the spin), there is a slow version and a fast version. If you press forward, hit and then jump you are performing the slow version. Fast one is when you press both forward and left buttons, hit and then jump. This is a good move because it can be used as a part of combo: when you are doing this move, you still have time to perform a spin before landing. So forward-hit and a spin can be done in one jump.
Rune has many more combos than it would seem just by doing the standard ones. If someone doesn't understand how they are done by my explanation and want to learn them or you have other moves you are curious of, just ask.
Don't assume someone is cheating just because you don't know how to do the move he is doing
I have a demo IU^Silverwolf once recorded where Lanza is cheating (with name Malacant), he is doing dodges without the cooldown time in a server where we had TRBP3 on. I can upload it to my web and post it here.
Tue February 17 2004, 10:02 PM
RhoeddYou're funny.
Tue February 17 2004, 10:19 PM
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Tue February 17 2004, 10:24 PM
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Wed February 18 2004, 12:30 AM
ZisuI
am funny

Wed February 18 2004, 12:40 AM
SHADYunfortunately all those theories, fancy footwork und that unvieldy sword won't save you from a mace to the forehead.