Today a player called Mud would run away from battles. He would go into chat when ever you were about to kill him. He would start a vote kick, then leave and come back to get the votes he needed to kick who ever he wanted. He would stand at the edge of the 1 on 1 arena but not enter it for the sole reason of preventing anyone from entering and fighting in the pit.
I wish I could say it is just this 1 player doing these things but its not. There is a number of players out there whos sole purpose seems to be to ruin the game for others.

Yeah, there IS a lot of players who do that, and in pretty much all the servers, too.

I just quit and come back later.

Yeah, I have found many people like that. There was one who kept on votekicking people by quitting and joining back in with a differnt name, and then people who kill you when your picking up the rune in the one-on-one arena, its annoying.

Speaking of, me and some of the boys were chatting last night and many feel that the tolerance of this sort of behavior has gone too far.
I think that if we have the rules we should enforce them. I know that you can't enforce something if a member is not around but then even sometimes it doesn't do much good because their "hands are tied"....
Anyhow, I do think that it would provide for a more enjoyable gaming experience if the rules were enforced moreregularly.
Also the issue was brought up about a private server. I am not so sure that would be a good idea, there are too many honorable good players it would keep out.
Maybe a type thing where you have to register and login? So everyone registered here could play? That would cut down on a bunch of lamers changing names all the time and would solve the one person vote kick issue.
Anyhow, I just think that we should enforce the rules we have and that would take care of a lot of the problem.

We were talking about opening up some of the commands to minors so you guys can police yourselves better. Also planning on removing the votekick command since those who use it are those who abuse it.

Vote kick was a good idea, unfortunately it is true the ones who use are the ones who abuse.
Opening up some more commands to minors might be a good idea... ()
The thing is would we be allowed to use them?
Rhoedd was saying that whenever he uses such commands he gets reprimanded for being too tough or something?
If we did do something like expanding some of the console commands to minors I think that there should be a well defined procedure to follow. i.e. 3 warnings etc. so that there are no issues about abusing commands if the procedure is followed.

All in all I do agree that there needs to be a little more policing going on.

I agree that we should start being less leniant towards those idiots. Personally, when I am on the forum and see that someone is complaining about another person running in-game multiple times, I'm going to kick them.

IE: I just saw Asgard_of_valhalla1 force someone to chat kill him. He's being kicked as we speak.

Perhaps it would be possible to make votekick work by internet protocol address? Because I rememeber how much it used to suck when no member was on and yet someone was behaving the way Sker described. Votekick is the only solution to a situation like that. But I quite agree, it is being abused. In fact, I've abused it a few times, I'm afraid, by using Kenshin's technique of voting, leaving, rejoining, and voting. Again, if it were possible to make votekick work by internet protocol address, I think that you would have a good system in place.

Well Roe you should then purchase a string of static IP addresses for all of us then. You should look into what the you just asked. If you are willing to shell out then I want to be the first to get one.

I don't think that would matter really.
I think he meant to just allow one vote per IP so that one can't just jump out change the name then jump back in to revote. So I think it would work because I have yet to see an IP that changes that much....

Mini,

I think you abused your right to kick there, you were not in the game. One dude kept on running, and every time he did, he would say "asgard is running" once he got into the weapons zone. Then he started vote kicking once I started winning, so I did it back. Childish, yes, but the dude pissed me off. I guess someone the "word" around LLC has been that Im a lamer and got kicked from being a member or a minor, this is not true. I quit awhile back, cause there was really no sense in being a member or a minor, cause you get repremanded for using the tools they supple you. Lamers piss me off, they used to more awhile back, but I have build up a tolerance (thanks shady) to most of it. But sometimes people can really get under your skin, expesially when they frame you, and you end up getting kicked by a member whom is not even playing at the time. Most who play with me know Im not a lamer, Midnight, we had our spouts way back, but we made up. Rev, always a great guy, but always stompts me into the ground. Mano, we had our spats about nailing me in the back when I go to eat, but I accepted it as part of my play now, and get yelled at for it, but its all good fun Mini has played with me several games, but I guess I go un-noticed when I just keep my mouth shut about lamers. I raise my voice about them, things like this happen Im not mad at you Mini, Im mad at that lamer that framed me. WHen stuff like this happens, I think members need to log onto the server someone on an account that doesnt say they are a member, but gives them members rights, so they can police the server. Cause most of the time, once a member comes on, the lamers stop, and its hard for me to prove my case. But anyhow, Im wondering how my name went to shit. Im a decent player, not the best, I know I can get pissy at times, but thats when Im outta smoke. All in all, Im just curious how this trinkle down has happened? and how the rumor about me getting booted happened, when clear as day I posted in Red Carpet that I quit as a member. I just figured I wouldnt get in trouble about booting, if I wasnt able to. And yes, I abused votekick, I admit it, but only after that one dude did it to me, I figured what comes around, goes around. And Im sorry But man did that dude get under my skin, he ran everytime, then would say "stop running asgard!" or the something similar. Then he would run back out, run around and throw every weapon he had, and run back into the weapons zone. I learned to cut him off, and he the would say "asgard chatkilled me". The did was simple off his rocker, I tell ya. And mini fell for his ploy. So for future tearms, if you guys see this laming going on, join the game as a hidden member and watch what is going on, you will find out its not me lameing. Seems like lately LLC has been getting flooded with these lamers, or maybe its the same dude using different names, but wow its a pain in the ass. Later Dudes

Just some clarification, dude. We demoted you to minor for abusing member commands. In fact, the only bigger abuser of member commands was SHADY. You were unhappy about being a minor because you couldn't kick... so you quit.

If I was demoted for abusing my right to kick, how come it was never told to me? Ever? This is the first I heard of it. Is that the way LLC handels their members, you would think as a member you get certain rights, and one of them is to kick, and if you are so called "abusing" this right, you would think, in all fairness, LLC would address the roughe member and tell them they are abusing this said right, and will be demoted if said abusing doesnt cease. Did I get a warning, nope. I didnt get a word of hide nor hair. But if that was the reason, so be it, but like I said, its news to me. And I quit because of the psudo pollitical tyranny that goes around LLC. Its all hoppla mumbo jumbo out the ass bullshit. And because I booted a very few people off, does this make me a lamer? I dont think so. Isnt that what the boot command is for? and shouldnt I been given a warning? Or is this a straight up dictatorship? Are members not to warn people several times, and if a person continues to be an ass, what are you supposed to do? Just sit and watch? I have the right to boot this person off, but because no other members are present, I cant? I know in the boot tutor is says to use with the utmost discretioncy. Which I did, its not like I booted everyone I didnt like off. Just the serious offenders that wouldnt listen. And Ive seen oher members boot people off like crazy, I wont name names, but some of them boot almost daily, which I didnt. But I quit LLC because of the political, he said, he said, she said, he said crap, and cause of a few very bad impamations in recuiting some of its members and minors. I just didnt feel as I totally agreed with everyone and that I just didnt wish to be a member or a minor anymore. I even said it was nothing against LLC, and that I would continue to play on LLC, but just didnt want any part of its politics. Plain and simple. And for future teanse, maybe you should warn your members before demoting them. Treat them fair and square, and as if they were part of your team, which they are, not as if they are just a piece of expendable crap. You treat all your members like this, you wont have a club, just a server full of lamers. But thats just my opinion. Oh, and I thought I was demoted cause I didnt pay an dues, at least thats what midnight told me. See how well the comunication is around here. One member tells me its cause of the dues, then other members tell me I got a bad rep, and that I was demoted cause Im a lamer. Which is it? Cause really I have no clue, and I know Im not a lamer, and if its cause I abuse the boot, which other members abused far far more than me, and I never received a warning, or anything, no communication, just a demotation, without a word. Do you fellow members know you can be demoted on a whim, if you do something the higher up LLC doesnt like, so bust out your egg shells fellas and start walking on it, cause these higher up guys, to me, are head hunters, and if they dont like something you do, without a word, off goes your head. Yeah, treat those members nice and fair. See ya

GoodPoint asgard .. I played with you once or twice and found you to be a good fighter,I was once a minor as well.But i had fun when i was in lcc and even though i was kicked without a warning (i dont think i received one about stealing codes) i still like lcc and im not mad at anyone of them, even though some lcc still dislike me.But their is alot of lamers out their.

Hi LCC.

How is it that every member in the club was well aware that you were abusing your member commands, excluding yourself?

lol, I'm not going to bicker with you.

I didn't demote you, but I know you were warned. And AFTER your warning you booted every single person that entered a server in about a 20 to 30 minute span. (The only person you didn't nuke was the officer that was in the server with you.)

It's cool though, you can believe what you'd like.

That's my final word on your week-long tenure as a member.

How is it abusing your rights to kick, when you only do it with discrepency and a very few times, I think at most in almost 2 months I booted at most 3 people, and I play alot. Ive seen other members boot 3 people in one game. Now I might have booted those 3 people more than once, but still only 3 people is the count. And I would like to know that myself, on how everyone was thinking I was abusing this so called kicking right? Who started this rumor? obiously someone who didnt like me much, and wanted me out, so they started this bogus rumor of me, just so they could get their selfish, childish way. Its silly to tell someone they are a member, and give them the right to boot people, then turn around and tell them they are not allowed to use this right, cause only they want this power, and they dont like you using it, only the "elite" LLC club members can us it, and if your not one of them, your abusing it. Thats just silly guys. And to demote me without warning, is even sillier. And how is it that all these members knew about what I was so called doing, when hardly any of you members ever really play. I mean you get on the board all the time, but hardly ever get in the ring. Isn't LLC about the game, and not about the politics? I think, if your a member, and someone is laming, you give them warning, and if they dis-obey, you boot them, plain and simple. If they come back, and start up again, you warn them again, and boot them. And if it continues, you eventually put them on the ban list. LLC has been doing nothing but going downhill. And only the "elite" LLC members want the power to boot people. Now I hear they are gonna tempt the minors by giving them the right to boot people. Talk about silly. Hey guys, we are gonna give the minors the right to boot too, but you cant boot, just like the non-"elite" llc members cant boot, cause you would be abusing this so called right to boot, its there, but no-no, you cant use it, its only for a few special people. Just take the command outta there if this is the case, no sense in it really even being there, cause if anyone uses it, they are abusing. This is what I get from all this. ANd its all just silly silly childish playground politics. If the command is there, and you have access to it, and someone is being a pain in the ass, fargin use it man.

It's LCC, not LLC you simp

Mano,

I dont think that was me your thinking off. Im much more honorable than that, seriously. I hate all this mumbo jumbo hoppla that people try to start about other people. Its all he said, she said crap. So why did Mano even bring it up? Im not gonna bikker with you, but Im gonna bikker. Talk about an oximoron. You a good guy mano, dont know what I did to get under your skin, but wow. I always have good play when your around, except the occasional blunt in the back of the head, but like I said, I started doing what you do and nail people when they are running to go eat, and I get yelled at for it, but its all in good fun. What comes around goes around I suppose. If I did something that pissed ya off, Im sorry. I do remember shortly before I got "demoted" I was letting the kids (I have 2 here, ones 6 and ones 8) play on LLC, using my laptop, and I do remember you yelling at me for using 2 logins at the same time, cause I think someone said I was trying to up my rank, but really I was just slicing the hell out of the kids, I could care less about the rank. Its only a game. But as soon as ya yelled at me about that, I told the kids they couldnt play with me at the same time, cause it would get me in trouble with LLC. But anyhow. I want to know how my name went to shit? ANd I dont want know he said she said bullshit, I want the facts, who was there and when. I have a really good memory and I know when I lame, and on what server, and its never been on LLC. Laters

god stfu they can kick you anytime they have the right not to give a shit about you. Who even bothered reading that fucking huge block of text anyways?