what you don't understand is that it wasn't you tolerating me. it was me tolerating you.

i thought you would see through jon's shit, and i held my tounge hoping that you would. but you gradualy turned into a whiny, easily irritated little bitch, much like jon.

so frankly now i don't want shit to do whith ither of you.

later kyr0x0r.

Hey! im not little.

I would really like to see you guys work this out. I consider you both good friends and I feel like each of you want me to choose one over the other.

Rox, you've been my right-hand man around this joint for a good six months now, and I depend on you for ideas, leadership, and most of all, companionship.

SHADY, I've been playing Rune with you longer than anyone else and most of the best times have been with you around.

All's I'm saying is that you're both awesome and I would really like it if you guys could work through this without my intervention.

Seriously SHADY, you are the last person in this forum that I thought that would whine like this in the forum.
I'm really sorry to hear that you cant handle people that play in the server not liking you ( dont take me wrong, I like fighting you ) and doing something about it.
Gee, if something is bothering you in the server, leave and come back later, just like the ragnars that you kill so you can rank up.

esto nao e de se interesse.

kiss and make up, we are all men here

Shady, I have been thinking about this for a long time about posting since my last big post about you being a flamer and here you are again trying to start shit again, but this time its not with a non member its with the minister, which I think is really funny.

Mano said "Shady, I've been playing Rune with you longer than anyone else and most of the best times have been with you around."

Every time I have talked to Mano about banning Shady, or anything like that, he always says Shady gives him good fights, and "there are other reasons" another time it was "Not enough memembers posted mostly just people that come to the server" .. I am yet to hear these reasons and Im sure other have been waiting to hear them as well.

Manowar, sure Shady has given you good fights but do you think the amount of those good fights is amounts to anywhere near times when Shady has giving others bad fights by exploiting, cheaping, and other forms of breaking rules (bloodlust ect).

I may not be a memember and I may not even be a minor but I still care what happens to LCC it is one of the only places I will play Rune because of the rules, the fact remains that sure Shady has been around for a long time but so have alot of us that have asked for the ban. Id really like to have a response on this from as many members and minors as possible, then maybe we will see if something is done.

§ 1.4.1. Banning shall be used with the utmost care; do not ban somebody because of personal differences with them, but because they are an objective public nuisance and willfully do not respond to lesser measures.

BTW, Id just like to point out this part of the LCC constitution for all to see. do not ban somebody because of personal difference but becasue of objective public nuisance and willfully do not respond to lesser measures.

Hmm I dont know but that sounds just like Shady to me.

Alright, I've been part of Low Cal a fair while now; heck, even felt I've contributed something. I'm sad to see this involve Rox, whose good humour and presence I value so much.

Guess I feel old when I see the periodic Shady-roast come on. This is what I'm specifically posting to. I'm sorry for the following 'holier-than-thou' crap but I'll sleep on it.

But something must be wrong with me. I'm actually in the obvious minority that finds Shady quite intuitive and insightful sometimes, hilarious often. Sure he delights in shocking, but I've never felt 'put down' by him. And no, he has no reason to 'suck up' to me, as he's been accused of doing to the various officers in the past. I see a fair bit of bullshit that I admire consistency and being true to self, at the very least.

Tellingly, I've found him good company on Ventrilo when one or more of the various officers and regulars have been around. Shady can take as good as he gives, I'm sure. It's fun to see the insults hurled because it's just impetuousity, most of the time.

I'm confident in saying that I can play and get along with any member or regular of this club; in Shady's case, it's not an aberration. And I don't think the onus should be on Mano being personally petty or such - that riles me even if I'm reasonably easy-going.

My two cents will obviously be discounted as Shady has been 'nice' ("OMFG!!111!") to me. And I think I'll be inundated with "What's an emeritus know anyway? pfff", "How would you like it if he said such-n-such (insert atrocity) to you?".

The thing is, he hasn't and might just well never...Why's that? Hmm.

Simply pointed out by Dante. I too have nothing against Shady other then a few jokes gone out of hand. The dude has been around longer then I have.

Meh, this topic has grown enuf already, I'd say that you do what the_licker told ya both to do.

A deeper meaning to the "Low Caliber Cycle": here's what I've gathered so far.

Phase 1 - All is well within the arena; members play regularly; the forum bushels with activity.

Phase 2 - "Lamer Infestation" occurs. People who don't necessarily play by the rules are introduced to the server and are usually shunned without proper notification of the rules they are breaking. Bans are placed; the forum lingers on controversial topics.

Phase 3 - The prior stage being in the past, players start basking in the benefits of Low Caliber's rules and the server once again becomes a hot spot. Bans are usually lifted; the forum becomes inhabited with new and friendly individuals.

Phase 4 - "Shady Hating". Someone (myself in the past) posts a topic in hopes of getting Shady banned for his mischevious deeds. "Elder" members of the club deny the request for a ban because, like it or not, Shady plays a big role in this club. Newcomers learn to dislike Shady; the forum rages on in heated discussions.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you play with Shady by Shady's rules, he's not that hard to get along with... and if he's deliberately breaking the rules, he doesn't seem to mind getting kicked a few dozen times

Well, I think the cycle is almost coming around to Phase 1 again (there might be a couple phases in the end that I haven't touched on). Stick around, guys the first phase is a hell of a lot of fun!

Ministration we shouldn't have to fight shady by his rules.. they are set rules for the arena for a reason. Why should you let one person break them all and hound on the others for it.
Yes the older members may be saying Shady has been around and they dont mind him as much but as one point they did. The reason for this is because they just fight Shady by his rules.

Why let one person violate almost the entire constitution that you guys are surposed to be based around?

That is my main point

I have been around since day 2 of rune coming out .. i bought it online/downloaded it, i have been here a long time just like shady. I heard also HE ISN'T EVEN A TRUE MINOR (i remember hearing this from unter).. He only got minorship for the fact that certain members couldn't boot him anymore. But those members are gone now.

Midnight on more then the common occasion i have heard you rant on vent how much shady is an ass and now the time comes where your voice counts and you wont voice it...

Dante, I have played with you alot in the past and i have also heard you on vent the rare occasion, Shady doesn't suck up to everyone.

Dude, I have ranted this question many times in the past. But seriously. I haven't had a day in months where Shady wasn't in the arena and on vent with me. He is like Mano says "a good fight". I joke with the dude and generally have fun with all who come in the arena. Shady is with us if you like it or not. You can't deny access to someone especially when you are in the same boat.

You know what, LCC is the last server where people play with honor and where you can find good and fair fights. Why even have the constition if you guys arn't going to abide by it?

You need to just get use to shady. He use to be a ass to me but hes ok now. Your taking his jokes to heart, you need to learn how to just ignore or joke back. Bitching just makes it worse.

Don't misinterpret my post... I don't necessarily allow his behaviour. When he breaks the rules, I kick him - plain and simple.

Try playing a game when Shady and I are both in there... you might find it funny to see how many times he gets kicked

But (as far as I know) he doesn't hold that against me much like I don't hold his actions against him.

Woody's right. The more you complain about him, the more you fuel his engine.

I remember a time where one merely had to post on the club's forum to be considered a member - Shady arrived shortly thereafter and has remained.

quote:

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Originally posted by Yakesh:
You know what, LCC is the last server where people play with honor and where you can find good and fair fights. Why even have the constition if you guys arn't going to abide by it?

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If you want to play with "honor" in the Low Caliber Arena, that's fine. But it has never been something that's been endorsed by this club's leadership. If you want some honor, head to an AR server, that's why they exist.

Keep on singling me out, dude, you're barking up the wrong tree.

P.S. What the hell is honor anyway?

Im not singling anyone out. I am responding to each in their own. I had something to say about you and i have said it.


You want to know about honor here it is :

hon·or ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nr)
n.
High respect, as that shown for special merit; esteem: the honor shown to a Nobel laureate.

Good name; reputation.
A source or cause of credit: was an honor to the profession.

Glory or recognition; distinction.
A mark, token, or gesture of respect or distinction: the place of honor at the table.
A military decoration.
A title conferred for achievement.
High rank.
The dignity accorded to position: awed by the honor of his office.
Great privilege: I have the honor to present the governor.
Honor Used with His, Her, or Your as a title and form of address for certain officials, such as judges and mayors: Her Honor the Mayor.

Principled uprightness of character; personal integrity.
A code of integrity, dignity, and pride, chiefly among men, that was maintained in some societies, as in feudal Europe, by force of arms.
A woman's chastity or reputation for chastity.
honors Social courtesies offered to guests: did the honors at tea.
honors
Special recognition for unusual academic achievement: graduated with honors.
A program of individual advanced study for exceptional students: planned to take honors in history.
Sports. The right of being first at the tee in golf.
Games.
Any of the four or five highest cards, especially the ace, king, queen, jack, and ten of the trump suit, in card games such as bridge or whist.
The points allotted to these cards. Often used in the plural.

tr.v. hon·ored, hon·or·ing, hon·ors

To hold in respect; esteem.
To show respect for.
To bow to (another dancer) in square dancing: Honor your partner.
To confer distinction on: He has honored us with his presence.
To accept or pay as valid: honor a check; a store that honors all credit cards.

Idiom:
honor bound
Under an obligation enforced by the personal integrity of the one obliged: I was honor bound to admit that she had done the work.


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honor·er n.
Synonyms: honor, homage, reverence, veneration, deference
These nouns denote admiration, respect, or esteem accorded to another as a right or as due. Honor is the most general term: The hero tried to be worthy of the honor in which he was held. Homage is often in the form of a ceremonial tribute that conveys allegiance: “There is no country in which so absolute a homage is paid to wealth” (Ralph Waldo Emerson). Reverence is a feeling of deep respect and devotion: “Kill reverence and you've killed the hero in man” (Ayn Rand). Veneration is both the feeling and the reverential expression of respect, love, and awe: Her veneration for her mentor never wavered. Deference is courteous, respectful regard for another that often implies yielding to him or her: The funeral was arranged with deference to the family of the deceased.

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honor

In addition to the idiom beginning with honor, also see do the honors; in honor of; on one's honor; word of honor.



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Main Entry: hon·or
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Forms: hon·ored; hon·or·ing
1 : to accept and pay <the bank honored the check>
2 : to purchase or discount (a draft) in compliance with a letter of credit


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honor

\Hon"or\, n. [OE. honor, honour, onour, onur, OF. honor, onor, honur, onur, honour, onour, F. honneur, fr. L. honor, honos.] [Written also honour.] 1. Esteem due or paid to worth; high estimation; respect; consideration; reverence; veneration; manifestation of respect or reverence.

A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country. --Matt. xiii. 57.

2. That which rightfully attracts esteem, respect, or consideration; self-respect; dignity; courage; fidelity; especially, excellence of character; high moral worth; virtue; nobleness; specif., in men, integrity; uprightness; trustworthness; in women, purity; chastity.

If she have forgot Honor and virtue. --Shak.

Godlike erect, with native honor clad. --Milton.

3. A nice sense of what is right, just, and true, with course of life correspondent thereto; strict conformity to the duty imposed by conscience, position, or privilege.

Say, what is honor? 'T is the finest sense Of justice which the human mind can frame, Intent each lurking frailty to disclaim, And guard the way of life from all offense Suffered or done. --Wordsworth.

I could not love thee, dear, so much, Loved I not honor more. --Lovelace.

4. That to which esteem or consideration is paid; distinguished position; high rank. ``Restored me to my honors.'' --Shak.

I have given thee . . . both riches, and honor. --1 Kings iii. 13.

Thou art clothed with honor and majesty. --Ps. civ. 1.

5. Fame; reputation; credit.

Some in theiractions do woo, and affect honor and reputation. --Bacon.

If my honor is meant anything distinct from conscience, 't is no more than a regard to the censure and esteem of the world. --Rogers.

6. A token of esteem paid to worth; a mark of respect; a ceremonial sign of consideration; as, he wore an honor on his breast; military honors; civil honors. ``Their funeral honors.'' --Dryden.

7. A cause of respect and fame; a glory; an excellency; an ornament; as, he is an honor to his nation.

8. A title applied to the holders of certain honorable civil offices, or to persons of rank; as, His Honor the Mayor. See Note under Honorable.

9. (Feud. Law) A seigniory or lordship held of the king, on which other lordships and manors depended. --Cowell.

10. pl. Academic or university prizes or distinctions; as, honors in classics.

11. pl. (Whist) The ace, king, queen, and jack of trumps. The ten and nine are sometimes called Dutch honors. --R. A. Proctor.

Affair of honor, a dispute to be decided by a duel, or the duel itself.

Court of honor, a court or tribunal to investigate and decide questions relating to points of honor; as a court of chivalry, or a military court to investigate acts or omissions which are unofficerlike or ungentlemanly in their nature.

Debt of honor, a debt contracted by a verbal promise, or by betting or gambling, considered more binding than if recoverable by law.

Honor bright! An assurance of truth or fidelity. [Colloq.]

Honor court (Feudal Law), one held in an honor or seignory.

Honor point. (Her.) See Escutcheon.

Honors of war (Mil.), distinctions granted to a vanquished enemy, as of marching out from a camp or town armed, and with colors flying.

Law, or Code, of honor, certain rules by which social intercourse is regulated among persons of fashion, and which are founded on a regard to reputation. --Paley.

Maid of honor, a lady of rank, whose duty it is to attend the queen when she appears in public.


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honor

\Hon"or\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Honored; p. pr. & vb. n. Honoring.] [OE. honouren, onouren, OF. honorer, honourer, F. honorer, fr. L. honorare, fr. honor, n.] 1. To regard or treat with honor, esteem, or respect; to revere; to treat with deference and submission; when used of the Supreme Being, to reverence; to adore; to worship.

Honor thy father and thy mother. --Ex. xx. 12.

That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. --John v. 23.

It is a custom More honor'd in the breach than the observance. --Shak.

2. To dignify; to raise to distinction or notice; to bestow honor upon; to elevate in rank or station; to ennoble; to exalt; to glorify; hence, to do something to honor; to treat in a complimentary manner or with civility.

Thus shall it be done to the man whom the king delighten to honor. --Esther vi. 9.

The name of Cassius honors this corruption. --Shak.

3. (Com.) To accept and pay when due; as, to honora bill of exchange.


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honor

n 1: a tangible symbol signifying approval or distinction; "an award for bravery" [syn: award, accolade, honour, laurels] 2: the state of being honored [syn: honour, laurels] [ant: dishonor] 3: the quality of being honorable and having a good name; "a man of honor" [syn: honour] [ant: dishonor] 4: a woman's virtue or chastity [syn: honour, purity] v 1: bestow honor upon; "Today we honor our soldiers" [syn: honour, reward] [ant: dishonor] 2: show respect towards; "honor your parents!" [syn: respect, honour, abide by, observe] [ant: disrespect] 3: accept as pay; "we honor checks and drafts" [syn: honour] [ant: dishonor] 4: confer honor on [syn: honour, favor, favour, grace]


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