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Treasurer
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Question:
Impaler, Manowar and I have been talking for some time about how to offset the costs of the Club (already in the four digits) while fostering solidarity.  We came up with the following schema:
Member
$20 / EUR 18 per year (adult)
$5 / EUR 4 per year (unemployed, under 18)

Playername protection
Administrative functions: kick, nosafe, servermute
Members-only forum
Kick-immunity
Server-side anouncement
Non-members would still continue to enjoy the forum; and with success we might be able to add a second, members-only server à la Midknight's suggestion.  Ideally we'll have this in effect by May 15; dues would be payable via PayPal, check or cash.
PayPal
unter_den@lowcaliber.com




Choices:
Difficult
No problem

 
 
Posts: 1457 | Location: Altadena | Registered: Tue January 07 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Magistrate
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four digits? wow...

Our server is one of the most reliable in Rune and we probably have the very best "Clan/Club" web site in Rune as well. While all of this is fine and dandy, it must be realized that this comes with an immense price.

Even if it seems our dues might not make a huge dent in the costs as a whole, it is certainly a gesture of good faith. You must admit, many of you wouldn't be playing Rune anymore if it weren't for LowCal. It's more than just being able to mute/kick/members board/ etc. It's a small token of appreciation.

Other things you can purchase for $20:

CD
DVD
Tank of Gas
A couple of number 3's at McDonald's
26 issues of Sports Illustrated
A Fry-Daddy Personal Deep Fryer
2 weeks of High Speed Internet
1 or even 2 months of Dial-up service


Twenty Dollars isn't much...
 
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It's very simple Mano:
20$/year=1.6$/month=1 Beer ... Smile
 
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yipe! I'm in fer sure mang! My free beer every shift more than compensates for Rune lol! Beer Thumbs Up Eek
 
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Originally posted by Unter den Uebrigen:
schema:
Member
$20 / EUR 18 per year (adult)
$5 / EUR 4 per year (unemployed, under 18)

Playername protection
Administrative functions: kick, nosafe, servermute
Members-only forum
Kick-immunity
Server-side anouncement

We could 'throw in' a personalized skin for each member.
 
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Treasurer
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I like that, Imp.

One possibility is a members-only server where the sky would be the limit; we could make a mod-pack available for download from the Red Carpet forum.

If the skins were under, say, 400k; we might be able to add that to the public server.  We should think about keeping a bare-bones server for general usage, though.
 
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Smaller than 400Kb? can't do it: one texture is around 90Kb, and a complete modified skin has 4 textures.

And another thing: i still think that adult members should contribute with 50$/year(4.1/month)...or at least the officers.
 
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Magistrate
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how large would Town Ragnar be if he only had a different shirt color?

It's rare you run into a Town Ragnar but I don't like when I do. All I was thinking was him having a crimson shirt.
 
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Mano i dunno if the color is right..but is supose to be crimson.
...and i've set it to full life..
Btw, you own me a beer Big Grin
 
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Four digits of what, like 1000 yen?

Anyhow it seems like this payment plan will be for a worthy cause so I'm with it.

20 dollars per year, that's what, a cup of coffee per month?
 
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The only problem I see with this is it will drastically decrease the amount of members willing to sign up, which means the community will not grow, it may even shrink given we already have quite a few members and likely not all would be willing to pay.
 
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i will have t othink about this....
i may and may not?


Also whagt will this benifit
where will the money go
 
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Originally posted by NuTT98:
The only problem I see with this is it will drastically decrease the amount of members willing to sign up, which means the community will not grow, it may even shrink given we already have quite a few members and likely not all would be willing to pay.


Peregrines will always be welcomed with open arms. Just a few extra features for those who give financial support.
 
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Treasurer
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Originally posted by NuTT98:
Four digits of what, like 1000 yen?
Since its inception, Low Caliber has had an average burn rate of $160 / month (US) x 16 months, plus about $400 in software acquisition and set-up fees.  And that's only the calculable costs; not including hundreds of hours of man-labour.

That's $2960.00 so far plus time; and if I were being charged $10 / hour, the value of Club is upwards of $18960.00 given 20 hrs a week for the past 16 months.

And before you go bitching, NuTT, about "why did you pay for all that, you fool"; suffice to say: you've already underestimated the cost of maintaining a club.

Spare your irony; I haven't the stomach.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by {Disturbed}_WoOdY:
...where will the money go


The money will return to you, in a diferent form tho.
 
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Actually, Imp; it goes directly into supporting the Club and its on-line facilities.

Members should not labour under the mistaken impression that because cyber-space is abstract, it also operates on good-will.

Our ongoing survival is an end in itself, and the purpose of dues; you don't need to look any further than this post if you're still asking, "wherefore dues?"
 
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Exactly man, just trying to explain that in a shorter way (you can say it's a metaphor).
 
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the value of Club is upwards of $18960.00 given 20 hrs a week for the past 16 months.



think you can get that much for it on ebay?
 
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Peregrine
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hehe peopel will buy anything nowadays eh? Well look its liek this guys.. the Club is GREAT, trust me its opened me up to a whole new rune world. But as of now i refuse to pay. As soon as you give me an arena, where i can fight someone 1 on 1 and dont have to have Imp or manowar saying "WATCH YOUR BAK" because some n'sync groupie is chargine my back with a bone club, then ill pay. But as long as its the same as any other room with a cool decal on the wall, im sorry but ill have to pass.
 
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ahahhaha,

so THAT is what you had planned...

lets see how your 13 year old + jobless members handle this.

ahhahahah.
 
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